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Thurs nedarim 46

The Gemara says that even R' Eliezer b. yaakov permits if the courtyard is too samll to split up between the partners. However, if they could split up, then he cannot enter the courtyard.

Ran explains: that we cannot say he bought the whole courtyard for when he uses it, since his partner can force him to split, we say that he may not bought this part that he's entering, since it might fall out in his partner's half after the split.

The Rashba explains: it would be Assur after the split too. Since the split is a sale (each one buying out the other one's partnership in their half.) We have a rule that even if the oath maker sells his house, the Assur party cannot go in unless that there after the fist sale, but only after the  buyer sells it to a  third person. However, the Rambam permits it after the split. The Ran explains: we must say that it's an unstipulated condition in the original partnership that each side cannot make an oath to forbid the partner after the split. Therefore, he never owned it enough to be able to forbid it.

 

Wed Nedarim 45

Tana Kama says that the partner in the courtyard that  swore off pleasure from the other cannot enter the courtyard. R' Eliezer b. Yaakov says that he may, since he's going into his portion.

Ran brings the gemara in Bava Kama that says the argument is do we say Breira. When they bought the courtyard jointly, can we say that each one owns what he eventually uses. Therefore each one walks into his possession only, since it's revealed that he was the one who bought it for that moment. Or we don't say that. When they bought it jointly, at that moment we don't know when they're going to use it, so they both own the whole property allways jointly, so he's always going into what his partner also owns.

However, the Ran asks: In Beitza we Paskin that for D'oiraisa cases we don't rely on Breira, so here we should Paskin like the Rabanan that says we can't say the future reveals what he bought. However, the Gemara Paskins like R' Eliezer b. Yaakov.

The Ran answers: we only don't say Breira if we need the future to decide the whole transaction. Like if someone puts an Eiruv T'chum that it should take effect if a rabbi comes on Shabbos there and he wants to walk there. If he doesn't come, he wants the Eruv not to take effect, so he should have the same T'chum as his fellow town dwellers. Therefore we rely on Breira to reveal to us during Shabbos was there an Eiruv at here at all before Shabbos.

However, our case the transaction definitely took place, they bought the courtyard jointly. We only need to say Breira to learn the details in the purchase, which specific times did each partner buy for. Therefore we may say Breira in this case.

 

Tues Nedarim 44

The Gemara tries to reconcile the beginning and the  end of the braisa. The Raisha seems to say that once Hefker is made, it leaves the owner's possession immediately, like Rabanan. The Seifa, where he made a time limit for when it will be Hefker, implies that he may renege on his Hefker, so it doesn't leave his possession until someone else takes it.

The first answer that it's like the Rabanan, however the Seifa is different, since  it's not common to make such a Hefker.

The Ran explains: since he did something uncommon and did not do the regular type of hefker, forever, we see he's reluctant to mafkir it. Therefore, we assume his  intent is not to release it from his possession until someone takes it. However, most people by regular Hefkir is not reluctant, so they release it from their possessions immediately.

 
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