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A GER GIVING HIMSELF A MILA

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 We already said that a Goy shouldn't perform a Mila. The question: can a
Ger perform a Mila on himself when he's converting.
 
The normal procedure for a Ger is first the Mila then the T'veila. Then
he cannot give himself the Mila, since before the T'veila he is still a
Goy. If the order of the conversion was reversed, there is a Machlokes
whether the original T'vela counts or would he need another T'vela after
the Mila. According to those that say Mila can be done after T'vela, and
therefore, through this Mila he becomes a Jew, can he perform the Mila?
  The Minchas Chinuch wants to compare this to the Gemara in Gittin. When
someone gives an Eved his document of freedom (Shtar Shichrur) how does
he acquire it? Whatever he acquires his master acquires and it's like it
was put back in the master's hand? the Gemara answers that his Shtar and
his "hand" (ability to acquire for himself) comes simultaneously. So too
here, the Mila and the becoming a Jew happens simultaneously. He was a
Jew when he did the Mila, so it's permitted.
 
Tosfos says that we always make the Bracha on T'vela after we immersed.
Since by the case of Ger, since he cannot make the Bracha until after he
was Toivel (since he was a Goy before) so he needs to make it afterwards,
the Rabanan decreed that all Brachos on T'veila should be the same.
Therefore we make all Birchas T'vela after the T'veila. If a Ger can give
himself the Mila, then he cannot make the Bracha until afterwards, so
therefore all Birchas Mila should be made afterwards? the Minchas Chinuch
concludes that there's a difference.
 
the Minchas Chinuch doesn't say what is the difference. If the Oilom has
a Chiluk, then write to me (contact us.) In a few days we'll bring the
best answers.
 
 

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